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I've about had it with these Hillary Holdouts.

Will Bower, a former Huffington Post blogger who seems to pride himself on starting Facebook groups, getting punked by much smarter people and being in denial, talks about his zealotry here, mainly as it's constituted in the group he created, P.U.M.A.

Party Unity My Ass.

Grow up, Will:

What's the goal, exactly? The main objective? Is it to get Clinton the nomination or to defeat Obama or...

Well, the coalition is diverse. I can't speak for everyone. Some will certainly be voting for McCain and are advocating that route. Others will write-in Hillary. Some will vote for third party candidates. But all the groups are very much united in not voting for Obama. The diverse groups are getting along. The number one rule is that no P.U.M.A. voter will cast a ballot for Obama, presently. If he has Hillary as vice president, well then each P.U.M.A. voter, of course, will make that decision.

Many, like myself, want to see a McCain-Clinton ticket, which would be as politically radical as F.D.R.-- It would be a true crack in the system, real change...

Yes, but then wasn't being a Hillary supporter mostly about endorsing her political philosophy and her policy agenda, which was nearly identical to Obama's? Wouldn't supporting McCain be the worst thing that could come of this, if you were to ask Hillary Clinton? I mean, after all the work on the trail and in the senate, her whole adult life?

You know, we're talking about policy, that's the question, but the biggest policy is the democratic process itself. The election of 2000 was a travesty.... Who will hold the Democratic Party responsible, this time, for this deeply flawed primary process? If we vote for Obama, that anti-democratic process -- where party officials decided early in the process, based on rules and exceptions to the rules, who they wanted to win -- then that anti-democratic process will be validated, which is, to my mind, the worst thing that can happen. I believe that if I were a Republican in 2000, I would have felt the same way: better Bush is defeated than the democratic process itself in the U.S. is defeated. We've reached a turning point.

Hillary had the fighting spirit. That's what we were in support of more than any one policy. We admired that and we're taking that forward...

More than any policy...

You know, she was a fighter in this campaign. That's what inspired so many people. And we're taking up the fight. We're not going to quit. We're going to fight. That's the message, for us, of her campaign.

I have no problem which candidate folks choose to support. If you're for McCain, then fine. Disagreement's something the current administration has done their best to silence, and I'm not going to protest against it here.

But what this man is doing is purely destructive, and he's doing largely because his feelings are hurt. If that's how he wants to use his vote, more power to him - but he's influencing a ton of people, and I know he won't have to answer to his little Facebook club if McCain is elected. Maybe then they'll realize that "fighting" is overrated.

Hopefully, they'll wake up and do the right thing.

HEY, WILL!

Try celebrating some history in women's achievement instead of soiling it.